Comments on: War in the Bible and Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century (Part 1) http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/ Encouraging curiosity about the world Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Review: Divine Presence Amid Violence (Walter Brueggemann) http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23821 Review: Divine Presence Amid Violence (Walter Brueggemann) Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:24:34 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23821 [...] the heels of my review of Eisenbrauns’ War in the Bible and Terrorism in the 20th Century (Part One, Two, Three), I read Walter Brueggemann’s Divine Presence Amid Violence: Contextualizing the Book [...] [...] the heels of my review of Eisenbrauns’ War in the Bible and Terrorism in the 20th Century (Part One, Two, Three), I read Walter Brueggemann’s Divine Presence Amid Violence: Contextualizing the Book [...]

]]> By: War in the Bible and Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century (Part 3) http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23745 War in the Bible and Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century (Part 3) Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:24:26 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23745 [...] S. Hess and Elmer A. Martens (Bulletin for Biblical Research Supplement 2). You can read the first part and second part of my review of this book here and here. In this third (and final) post, the [...] [...] S. Hess and Elmer A. Martens (Bulletin for Biblical Research Supplement 2). You can read the first part and second part of my review of this book here and here. In this third (and final) post, the [...]

]]> By: War in the Bible and Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century (Part 2) http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23721 War in the Bible and Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century (Part 2) Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:05:53 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23721 [...] S. Hess and Elmer A. Martens (Bulletin for Biblical Research Supplement 2). You can read the first part of my review of this book here. Although I had thought I would prefer to post on each essay/chapter separately, [...] [...] S. Hess and Elmer A. Martens (Bulletin for Biblical Research Supplement 2). You can read the first part of my review of this book here. Although I had thought I would prefer to post on each essay/chapter separately, [...]

]]> By: Coming soon… http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23709 Coming soon… Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:47:37 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23709 [...] Completion of my review of War in the Bible and Terrorism in the 21st Century (Part One is here) [...] [...] Completion of my review of War in the Bible and Terrorism in the 21st Century (Part One is here) [...]

]]> By: Carl Hostetter http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23686 Carl Hostetter Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:53:32 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23686 Yes, people should certainly be planting trees wherever they can. But converting existing trees into some permanent form locks up the carbon they've already fixed for centuries (as opposed to the trees eventually being burned or decaying, which releases their carbon). Doing so is thus an _additional_ sequestration to that achieved by planting new trees. Yes, people should certainly be planting trees wherever they can. But converting existing trees into some permanent form locks up the carbon they’ve already fixed for centuries (as opposed to the trees eventually being burned or decaying, which releases their carbon). Doing so is thus an _additional_ sequestration to that achieved by planting new trees.

]]> By: James http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23679 James Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:38:36 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23679 John, sorry for the slow response. We went with the printer who offered us the option of Green Press Initiative versus the one who did not. I don't recall the price difference anymore; it was over a year ago. I suspect it was cheaper, just because that printer is usually cheaper than the other ones and does excellent work. Carl, Yes, recent studies have shown that young trees fix more carbon than older trees. But, why cut down more trees just to print this book? More than enough trees are being cut already. Why not just plant more trees, instead? When we bought our place two years ago, the first thing I did was plant trees—over 40 of them (on about 2 acres). James John, sorry for the slow response.

We went with the printer who offered us the option of Green Press Initiative versus the one who did not. I don’t recall the price difference anymore; it was over a year ago. I suspect it was cheaper, just because that printer is usually cheaper than the other ones and does excellent work.

Carl,

Yes, recent studies have shown that young trees fix more carbon than older trees. But, why cut down more trees just to print this book? More than enough trees are being cut already. Why not just plant more trees, instead?

When we bought our place two years ago, the first thing I did was plant trees—over 40 of them (on about 2 acres).

James

]]> By: Carl Hostetter http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23654 Carl Hostetter Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:57:49 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23654 I can't help but point out that if you want to sequester carbon, an _excellent_ way to do so is to cut down trees, convert them into some permanent form (building materials, furniture, or yes, books), and then plant new trees in their place to fix even more carbon. I can’t help but point out that if you want to sequester carbon, an _excellent_ way to do so is to cut down trees, convert them into some permanent form (building materials, furniture, or yes, books), and then plant new trees in their place to fix even more carbon.

]]> By: Steve Rives http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23650 Steve Rives Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:18:44 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23650 You taught at WTS, right? Did any of the authors deal with M. G. Kline and his Intrusion Ethics? I believe that solves the problem completely. Kline seems to settle the issue so thoroughly, that I hope someone picked up his work and advanced it in one of these articles. Steve Rives Writing for the Vosian and Klinian way... You taught at WTS, right? Did any of the authors deal with M. G. Kline and his Intrusion Ethics? I believe that solves the problem completely. Kline seems to settle the issue so thoroughly, that I hope someone picked up his work and advanced it in one of these articles.

Steve Rives
Writing for the Vosian and Klinian way…

]]> By: Karyn http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23646 Karyn Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:27:13 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23646 Philip, Thank you for your comments. I think Volf would agree with you that history does indeed (unfortunately) record that people have used Christianity as a justification for violence. The essay in the book is not denying that (and was very clear in stating this), rather it is looking at the Christian faith as it ought to be practiced and arguing that a true Christian faith is not necessarily violent. The issues you bring up of Canaanite warfare is dealt with in subsequent chapters/essays and I will be discussing those in future posts. No one essay in the book will be able to give a complete view or answer. I think the book, as a distillation of the symposium, must be taken as a whole. I hope you will check back to read about the other chapters. Or better yet, read the book yourself and let me know your views on the whole book. The best measure of the helpfulness of the book is ongoing dialogue. Philip,
Thank you for your comments. I think Volf would agree with you that history does indeed (unfortunately) record that people have used Christianity as a justification for violence. The essay in the book is not denying that (and was very clear in stating this), rather it is looking at the Christian faith as it ought to be practiced and arguing that a true Christian faith is not necessarily violent. The issues you bring up of Canaanite warfare is dealt with in subsequent chapters/essays and I will be discussing those in future posts. No one essay in the book will be able to give a complete view or answer. I think the book, as a distillation of the symposium, must be taken as a whole. I hope you will check back to read about the other chapters. Or better yet, read the book yourself and let me know your views on the whole book. The best measure of the helpfulness of the book is ongoing dialogue.

]]> By: Philip Stern http://stay-curious.com/archives/2010/01/04/war-in-the-bible-and-terrorism-in-the-twenty-first-century-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-23645 Philip Stern Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:13:40 +0000 http://boulders2bits.com/?p=3315#comment-23645 It sounds like Volf is more of an apologist than a serious historian. The synoptic gospels are in large part polemics against the Pharisees, while the Gospel of John is in part a polemic against the Jews. Christians have acted towards Jews over the centuries in keeping with these polemics. Wars of religion, such as the Crusades and the wars between branches of the Christian faith, have been legion. Christian countries have started more wars, including World War I and World War II, than any other country or countries characterized by faith. That is not to say that there is no violence fomented by other religions; the Hebrew Bible, like its counterparts in Christianity and Islam, has a place for peace but it also recounts ruthless warfare against peoples that did not embrace the God of Israel, just as Christians and Moslems have warred against each other in later times. Warfare is doubtlessly a product of human nature, but to deny the fact that Christianity itself has been a cause of war on many occasions as have other religions--with the possible exception of Buddhism (I, for one, have never heard of a war started by practicing Buddhists)--is simply to deny too much history. It sounds like Volf is more of an apologist than a serious historian. The synoptic gospels are in large part polemics against the Pharisees, while the Gospel of John is in part a polemic against the Jews. Christians have acted towards Jews over the centuries in keeping with these polemics. Wars of religion, such as the Crusades and the wars between branches of the Christian faith, have been legion. Christian countries have started more wars, including World War I and World War II, than any other country or countries characterized by faith. That is not to say that there is no violence fomented by other religions; the Hebrew Bible, like its counterparts in Christianity and Islam, has a place for peace but it also recounts ruthless warfare against peoples that did not embrace the God of Israel, just as Christians and Moslems have warred against each other in later times. Warfare is doubtlessly a product of human nature, but to deny the fact that Christianity itself has been a cause of war on many occasions as have other religions–with the possible exception of Buddhism (I, for one, have never heard of a war started by practicing Buddhists)–is simply to deny too much history.

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